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Hi fellow Aquarius Moons,
I was wondering, it seems as I get older, I am clashing more with my family's expectations and demands on my life. I have always felt comprimised in some way by them.
If I think back I have often disagreed and rebelled against the traditional family views, but I have also often let things slide in the past abd let them dominate me too much ( Taurus Sun in the 7th house).
I am 31 now and I am sick of saying yes t o their evey demand. So I have started to say NO, and its causing waves of drama, sadly.
I just want to be free to live my life the way I see fit, I am not doing anything wrong, but the expectations are getting very annoying. So I decided I have to live my life for me, which now means saying no to every family gathering of late. I have wasted enough time.
Does anyone else have or had in the past, a separation or difficuly getting ones own feedom, pschologically, emotionally of phsyically from their family?
I feel this does relate to having an Aquarius Moon though other Aquarian placements like Rising and Sun, Im sure can relate also.
I was wondering, it seems as I get older, I am clashing more with my family's expectations and demands on my life. I have always felt comprimised in some way by them.
If I think back I have often disagreed and rebelled against the traditional family views, but I have also often let things slide in the past abd let them dominate me too much ( Taurus Sun in the 7th house).
I am 31 now and I am sick of saying yes t o their evey demand. So I have started to say NO, and its causing waves of drama, sadly.
I just want to be free to live my life the way I see fit, I am not doing anything wrong, but the expectations are getting very annoying. So I decided I have to live my life for me, which now means saying no to every family gathering of late. I have wasted enough time.
Does anyone else have or had in the past, a separation or difficuly getting ones own feedom, pschologically, emotionally of phsyically from their family?
I feel this does relate to having an Aquarius Moon though other Aquarian placements like Rising and Sun, Im sure can relate also.
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Re: Any Aquarian Moons have issues with family expectations versus independance?
Sun, January 13, 2008 - 1:04 AMMy family never 'got' me much, something to do maybe with having their Saturns, amongst one or two other things conjunct my natal Moon. They thought I was crazy, to put a not too fine a point on it.
They also never 'got' the realities of the economic situation that awaited me when the time to be independent - at graduation - emerged and there are 500 graduates to one job. In so many ways, I was blamed for this, for being 'lazy' and so forth. At the time, that lack of faith made me angry enough to really make a point of rebelling, by getting involved in all kinds of anti-Bomb protests activities, other kinds of activism, but the 'you are crazy' equation is the one that really hurt. When something like that is really beleived, it can be scary, too.
I did not visit my family or speak to them for two years after the famous Uranus half-return in 1999, when all these issues with my mother reared their heads again. She thought I did not want to look for a job again, without bothering to check what might really be going on in my life. I left the UK for good after that. We are on cordial terms now but the strange thing is, my father is still trying to stage manage my career. I see it is a bit sad now, but it still would have been nice to have had a litle more support for my creative activities. Tesol sucks and self-employed or not, which is what I think he wanted to be but never really felt able to, that line of work can be thankless, thankless, thankless.
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Sun, January 13, 2008 - 2:23 PMYes i hear you, I have often felt misunderstood on many levels, especially by parents and a couple of my sisters.
I know what you mean about being blamed for something when they dont know the real story, i have experienced that too.
I often feel that because I choose to be individual and not as tightly knit with the 'clan' of the family as they liked, I get scapegoated for doing my own thing, which is really frustrating when I am just trying to live my life.
I guess the positive side is going through these things affords one with greater independance when these things are faced and we become strengthened ( hopefully) by the difficulties. -
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Re: Any Aquarian Moons have issues with family expectations versus independance?
Sun, January 13, 2008 - 3:08 PMIt could be a control thing, though it might depend on how strong Uranus is in your chart. Many people with some kind of an investment in an important tie, often do not seem to be able to maintain it without trying to control the other person a little in places. I despise that kind of behaviour myself. Maybe in a partnership there are ways a couple can learn to have faith in each other, but then you are stuck with family.
Maybe some of your family members need to get a life.
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Sun, January 13, 2008 - 9:49 PMWow you mentioned 'control' and that is what I have been thinking lately, thats why it feels like it lacks authenticity to me is they want me to reinforce their material success or lifestyle ( for example) when for me I am more about having a real connection with a person. Im so not about come over to my home to see my furniture and carpet. Im just not into that....but they are..sadly.
Also I am thinking if they are so happy with themselves why do they need me to make token gestures of approval.
I was having a bit of a confrontation recently with a sister who was saying she was dissapointed that I didnt show more enthusiasm when her and her boyfriend purchased their first home together. When she told me about it I said to her that it was exciting news, but apparently that was not enough for her and it caused somewhat of a family drama with me having to defend myself, though I know I did nothing wrong.
I feel like I am trying to assert my independance from their clanish ways...it feels like even though I want to so much and need to for my own sanity and personal growth, there is this fear that comes up like, what if it becomes too awkward and painful ( i mean I dont want to hurt anyones feelings) but they just arent respecting my individuality at all.
I have Uranus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Moon in Aquarius in the 4th house. I dont know if that sheds any light. -
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Re: Any Aquarian Moons have issues with family expectations versus independance?
Mon, January 14, 2008 - 12:29 AM'I have Uranus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Moon in Aquarius in the 4th house. I dont know if that sheds any light.'
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Mon, January 14, 2008 - 2:58 PMNo I dont have any aspects between those two placements. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 8:25 AMAquarius moons have an easy time letting go of emotional attachments, including family ties. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 11:17 PMI agree to a point, maybe its that my moon is in the 4th house as to why I am finding it a little difficult. I want to get more space but I feel their field of expectation and pressure and then guilt kicks in. -
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Mon, January 21, 2008 - 12:43 AMI don't think you can generalise that much about how easy or difficult it is to let go of family ties.
If your Moon are Unrasus are not n square, Magneta, then maybe you should ook at the Saturn placements in your chart. -
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Mon, January 21, 2008 - 2:30 AMahh yes...Nexus 7........... I have Saturn in Cancer - lets see ...key words,,,feel restricted ( saturn) by the family ( cancer) !! -
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Re: Any Aquarian Moons have issues with family expectations versus independance?
Wed, January 23, 2008 - 11:55 AMNow then might be the time to check out the role Saurn plays in your mutual synastries too....
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Mon, March 10, 2008 - 12:48 AMGabby
Find Uranus, to coin a phrase. Look for where it is in your chart.
Well, when you are about 40-42, if your natal Uranus is at 6 Virgo, then at about this age, it will reach 6 degrees Pisces and therefore by transit will be opposing its own place (making a 180 degree aspect).
This can indicate great restlssness with your life at it is at this ime, hich is why it is linked up to 'medlife crises, though Richard Tarnas imply suggests in his massive tome, Cosmos and Psyche, that this s when creativity really flower in some people. -
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 12:45 AMIt occurred to me I did not answer this question really.
What it seems to me is that the cozy and narrow world of 'little boxes' conformity my faily holds so dear seems to be wining, and wining again. Nowadays, it all seems o be 'workworkwork' but unlike in the secure and conformist 50's that shaped my parents, fr very little reward and without even the complacence of security.
I did find myself wanting to question always why it is that itis only by following certain traditional milestones such as getting a good job, getting married, driving a car, having children and getting a mortgage that you are then deemd to be a fully-fledged adult human being.
Well, I failed at the first post as when I graduated there was massive graduate unemployment and as my family believed hat all the unemployed are scroungers by defaul, I did want o question why having a paid job should be the only thing that validates you.
Of course, long term unemplymnet is disempowering and I certainly was not prepared to wait around in order to be rounded up to become workfare fodder, so for the last decade I have been self-employed. Now, it is just interesing o see how selecive my family is about what they are supportive about and what they are not. So they are delighted to hear that I am giving workshops to aspiring doctors so that their English will be good enough for them to be able to work abroad, but when I told my father that I had been paid royalties for a run of my Tarot cards to be printed, there was the immediate catastrophic reaction that the Bad Old Days of Slumming it and Buming it amongst Struggling Artists on inner-city estates ,were back.
In fact, I live in an inner-city estate now,l but sadly, mius any artists or alternative thinkers whatsoever. However, my flat comes with a mortgage and the address is in theory ok, so my family can slep sondly at night from that point of view now.
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Thu, January 24, 2008 - 11:45 AMI have Moon in Aquarius and Uranus in Cancer, a double signature. I enjoyed my childhood, but when I became a teenager I couldn't wait to move out. Uranus is so progressive and like to upgrade, so it's hard to stay in any group with old-fashioned values without experiencing some clashes. I went through that phase with my family too. My advice would be to at least keep the lines of communication open. Aquarius is a trouble shooter and will find a logical solution through analysis and discussion. -
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Thu, January 24, 2008 - 5:15 PMThanks Mich..
what you wrote makes a lot of sense.
Funny you said that you enjoyed your childhood but couldnt wait to move out.
I had a decent childhood and having 4 other siblings was great. But as I got older and into my teens my father became more and more controlling to the point of verbal abuse and other problems.
I remember being desperate to move out of home from age 15 but knew I didnt have the ability to until I was at least 18, I moved out when I was 20 which was great but its like I kept encountering the issues of control with my father through other people in share households and romantic relationships.
I also like what you said about Uranus wants to upgrade. I constantly feel like if things arent changing in some way Im not learning and growing.
Other than Aqua Moon and Scorpio Rising, I have a lot of Taurus in My chart, Sun, Venus and Jupiter and Mercury all in Taurus too but Mercury is on the cusp of Gemini along with my Sun, so I am mostly stable but I get antsy if my partner who is a Taurus moon gets too stubborn and resists change more than me.
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Thu, January 24, 2008 - 7:56 PMBy Magneta: "Funny you said that you enjoyed your childhood but couldnt wait to move out.
I had a decent childhood and having 4 other siblings was great. But as I got older and into my teens my father became more and more controlling to the point of verbal abuse and other problems.
I remember being desperate to move out of home from age 15 but knew I didnt have the ability to until I was at least 18, I moved out when I was 20 which was great but its like I kept encountering the issues of control with my father through other people in share households and romantic relationships."
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Moon in Aquarius has a Uranian home life in some respect, not like Ozzie and Harriet.
I liked the maternal side of my family a lot. My parents divorced when I was quite young and we lived with my grandparents. My grandmother was a Leo artist who was a lot of fun, my grandfather a Scorpio. We had great synastry. In my teen years my mom remarried and my grandparents moved out. After a few years they didn't get along, so that was chaotic. I need a friendly home environment. I didn't actually move out until I was 20 either.
My Saturn is in the 12th and trines Uranus. After I moved out, I got freedom from parental control. Actually, my mom and I became very good friends, but we had some issues to resolve, which took a few years.
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Wed, February 20, 2008 - 3:20 AMi have always had trouble with expectations etc
#family members expecting me to be like them well guess wot im not im unique
dont want to setttle down and kids live happy ever after bit of a rebel hate rules have trouble in following orders especially where work is concerned grrrrrrrrrr and when i do follow orders i feel im hurting my self by pleasing others for me i have different needs to the majority have trouble showing my emotions and sharing them with ease trouble with patner coz i m so independant and aloof................................ hardest thing for me is to accept hey this is me and stop trying to be like others coz if i cant accept who i am how will others wish there were more people out there like me feel alone ...no one gets me -
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Sat, February 23, 2008 - 8:46 PMevery word you wrote,,, i RELATE TO!
I think the key is acceptance of seld despite the "good" opinions of others,
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Sat, February 23, 2008 - 8:46 PMmeant to say acceptance of 'self '
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Mon, June 1, 2009 - 9:53 AMHi! I totally relate to this thread. Do you know where your Saturn is placed? I think Saturn can sometimes play a role in the life of the Aquarius Moon. It's hard to say how that will play out. But it sounds almost like you have the classic split Uranus need to be independent and do your own thing, but also feel the heavy hand of Saturnian responsibility (in this case your family). I have this EXACT same problem.
As far as being mis-understood, you know I think this is one of those Universal feelings that binds the world together. I think when we feel mis-understood we can consider that there are billions of other people feeling the same way too, which grows greater compassion for humanity at large.
I digress! Anyways, back to this family business, I am with you 100%, there have always been these expectations of me as well, and I've found myself following those expectations, living up to them for many years. I'm coming up on 29 now and I see where I've successfully struck out on my own and just take the disapproval, and where I still am somehow dominated by it. The moon is a strong current, I think having the Moon in Aquarius is part of the challenge, we have to be willing to just say, ok, enough, I'm doing my thing, you can either respect that or not. I respect that you are doing your thing, the least you can do is give me the same in return.
I know that isn't much, but, just give it straight and stand tall. It's all you can do. I wouldn't sever ties, I think that's one of the dumbest things we can do in life with family. It doesn't matter, you don't have to see them every day, etc. but there's no need to wage war, doing so just contributes to the larger problems of the world. Wars of 2, wars of many, it's war none the less and it gets into the energetic atmosphere and does have an effect.
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Mon, June 1, 2009 - 12:11 PMHi Jenn
Saturn makes an exact semi-square to my Moon whilst Uranus makes an exact opposition and my parent's Saturns conjoin my Moon and yes, you could say 'Ouch.' Quite a few times over this lifetime, to say the least.
I can see there can be some mileage in being a Good Citizen and paying taxes and all that, but I do resent paying ino infrastructures where the the taxes are high and do not really seem to benefit the people much and I do feel pretty well damned trapped a lot of the time these days.
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 11:17 PMHi Jenn, I havent been here for some time so sorry for the delayed posting, I love what you said everything you wrote makes 100 % sense to me! Thank you.
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