Any Aquarian Moons have issues with family expectations versus independance?

topic posted Sat, January 12, 2008 - 2:47 PM by  Magneta
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Hi fellow Aquarius Moons,

I was wondering, it seems as I get older, I am clashing more with my family's expectations and demands on my life. I have always felt comprimised in some way by them.

If I think back I have often disagreed and rebelled against the traditional family views, but I have also often let things slide in the past abd let them dominate me too much ( Taurus Sun in the 7th house).

I am 31 now and I am sick of saying yes t o their evey demand. So I have started to say NO, and its causing waves of drama, sadly.

I just want to be free to live my life the way I see fit, I am not doing anything wrong, but the expectations are getting very annoying. So I decided I have to live my life for me, which now means saying no to every family gathering of late. I have wasted enough time.

Does anyone else have or had in the past, a separation or difficuly getting ones own feedom, pschologically, emotionally of phsyically from their family?

I feel this does relate to having an Aquarius Moon though other Aquarian placements like Rising and Sun, Im sure can relate also.
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Magneta
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    My family never 'got' me much, something to do maybe with having their Saturns, amongst one or two other things conjunct my natal Moon. They thought I was crazy, to put a not too fine a point on it.

    They also never 'got' the realities of the economic situation that awaited me when the time to be independent - at graduation - emerged and there are 500 graduates to one job. In so many ways, I was blamed for this, for being 'lazy' and so forth. At the time, that lack of faith made me angry enough to really make a point of rebelling, by getting involved in all kinds of anti-Bomb protests activities, other kinds of activism, but the 'you are crazy' equation is the one that really hurt. When something like that is really beleived, it can be scary, too.

    I did not visit my family or speak to them for two years after the famous Uranus half-return in 1999, when all these issues with my mother reared their heads again. She thought I did not want to look for a job again, without bothering to check what might really be going on in my life. I left the UK for good after that. We are on cordial terms now but the strange thing is, my father is still trying to stage manage my career. I see it is a bit sad now, but it still would have been nice to have had a litle more support for my creative activities. Tesol sucks and self-employed or not, which is what I think he wanted to be but never really felt able to, that line of work can be thankless, thankless, thankless.
    • Yes i hear you, I have often felt misunderstood on many levels, especially by parents and a couple of my sisters.

      I know what you mean about being blamed for something when they dont know the real story, i have experienced that too.

      I often feel that because I choose to be individual and not as tightly knit with the 'clan' of the family as they liked, I get scapegoated for doing my own thing, which is really frustrating when I am just trying to live my life.

      I guess the positive side is going through these things affords one with greater independance when these things are faced and we become strengthened ( hopefully) by the difficulties.
    • uranus half-return

      Sun, March 9, 2008 - 7:52 PM
      what is the uranus half-return???
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        Re: uranus half-return

        Mon, March 10, 2008 - 12:48 AM
        Gabby

        Find Uranus, to coin a phrase. Look for where it is in your chart.

        Well, when you are about 40-42, if your natal Uranus is at 6 Virgo, then at about this age, it will reach 6 degrees Pisces and therefore by transit will be opposing its own place (making a 180 degree aspect).

        This can indicate great restlssness with your life at it is at this ime, hich is why it is linked up to 'medlife crises, though Richard Tarnas imply suggests in his massive tome, Cosmos and Psyche, that this s when creativity really flower in some people.
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          Re: uranus half-return

          Thu, March 20, 2008 - 12:45 AM
          It occurred to me I did not answer this question really.

          What it seems to me is that the cozy and narrow world of 'little boxes' conformity my faily holds so dear seems to be wining, and wining again. Nowadays, it all seems o be 'workworkwork' but unlike in the secure and conformist 50's that shaped my parents, fr very little reward and without even the complacence of security.

          I did find myself wanting to question always why it is that itis only by following certain traditional milestones such as getting a good job, getting married, driving a car, having children and getting a mortgage that you are then deemd to be a fully-fledged adult human being.

          Well, I failed at the first post as when I graduated there was massive graduate unemployment and as my family believed hat all the unemployed are scroungers by defaul, I did want o question why having a paid job should be the only thing that validates you.

          Of course, long term unemplymnet is disempowering and I certainly was not prepared to wait around in order to be rounded up to become workfare fodder, so for the last decade I have been self-employed. Now, it is just interesing o see how selecive my family is about what they are supportive about and what they are not. So they are delighted to hear that I am giving workshops to aspiring doctors so that their English will be good enough for them to be able to work abroad, but when I told my father that I had been paid royalties for a run of my Tarot cards to be printed, there was the immediate catastrophic reaction that the Bad Old Days of Slumming it and Buming it amongst Struggling Artists on inner-city estates ,were back.

          In fact, I live in an inner-city estate now,l but sadly, mius any artists or alternative thinkers whatsoever. However, my flat comes with a mortgage and the address is in theory ok, so my family can slep sondly at night from that point of view now.
  • I have Moon in Aquarius and Uranus in Cancer, a double signature. I enjoyed my childhood, but when I became a teenager I couldn't wait to move out. Uranus is so progressive and like to upgrade, so it's hard to stay in any group with old-fashioned values without experiencing some clashes. I went through that phase with my family too. My advice would be to at least keep the lines of communication open. Aquarius is a trouble shooter and will find a logical solution through analysis and discussion.
    • Thanks Mich..

      what you wrote makes a lot of sense.

      Funny you said that you enjoyed your childhood but couldnt wait to move out.

      I had a decent childhood and having 4 other siblings was great. But as I got older and into my teens my father became more and more controlling to the point of verbal abuse and other problems.

      I remember being desperate to move out of home from age 15 but knew I didnt have the ability to until I was at least 18, I moved out when I was 20 which was great but its like I kept encountering the issues of control with my father through other people in share households and romantic relationships.

      I also like what you said about Uranus wants to upgrade. I constantly feel like if things arent changing in some way Im not learning and growing.

      Other than Aqua Moon and Scorpio Rising, I have a lot of Taurus in My chart, Sun, Venus and Jupiter and Mercury all in Taurus too but Mercury is on the cusp of Gemini along with my Sun, so I am mostly stable but I get antsy if my partner who is a Taurus moon gets too stubborn and resists change more than me.

      Ahhrrg!!
      • By Magneta: "Funny you said that you enjoyed your childhood but couldnt wait to move out.

        I had a decent childhood and having 4 other siblings was great. But as I got older and into my teens my father became more and more controlling to the point of verbal abuse and other problems.

        I remember being desperate to move out of home from age 15 but knew I didnt have the ability to until I was at least 18, I moved out when I was 20 which was great but its like I kept encountering the issues of control with my father through other people in share households and romantic relationships."

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        Moon in Aquarius has a Uranian home life in some respect, not like Ozzie and Harriet.

        I liked the maternal side of my family a lot. My parents divorced when I was quite young and we lived with my grandparents. My grandmother was a Leo artist who was a lot of fun, my grandfather a Scorpio. We had great synastry. In my teen years my mom remarried and my grandparents moved out. After a few years they didn't get along, so that was chaotic. I need a friendly home environment. I didn't actually move out until I was 20 either.

        My Saturn is in the 12th and trines Uranus. After I moved out, I got freedom from parental control. Actually, my mom and I became very good friends, but we had some issues to resolve, which took a few years.
  • Hi! I totally relate to this thread. Do you know where your Saturn is placed? I think Saturn can sometimes play a role in the life of the Aquarius Moon. It's hard to say how that will play out. But it sounds almost like you have the classic split Uranus need to be independent and do your own thing, but also feel the heavy hand of Saturnian responsibility (in this case your family). I have this EXACT same problem.

    As far as being mis-understood, you know I think this is one of those Universal feelings that binds the world together. I think when we feel mis-understood we can consider that there are billions of other people feeling the same way too, which grows greater compassion for humanity at large.

    I digress! Anyways, back to this family business, I am with you 100%, there have always been these expectations of me as well, and I've found myself following those expectations, living up to them for many years. I'm coming up on 29 now and I see where I've successfully struck out on my own and just take the disapproval, and where I still am somehow dominated by it. The moon is a strong current, I think having the Moon in Aquarius is part of the challenge, we have to be willing to just say, ok, enough, I'm doing my thing, you can either respect that or not. I respect that you are doing your thing, the least you can do is give me the same in return.

    I know that isn't much, but, just give it straight and stand tall. It's all you can do. I wouldn't sever ties, I think that's one of the dumbest things we can do in life with family. It doesn't matter, you don't have to see them every day, etc. but there's no need to wage war, doing so just contributes to the larger problems of the world. Wars of 2, wars of many, it's war none the less and it gets into the energetic atmosphere and does have an effect.

    Peace!
    • Hi Jenn

      Saturn makes an exact semi-square to my Moon whilst Uranus makes an exact opposition and my parent's Saturns conjoin my Moon and yes, you could say 'Ouch.' Quite a few times over this lifetime, to say the least.

      I can see there can be some mileage in being a Good Citizen and paying taxes and all that, but I do resent paying ino infrastructures where the the taxes are high and do not really seem to benefit the people much and I do feel pretty well damned trapped a lot of the time these days.

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